Nostradamus C2 Q13: Mortal issues involving immortal interactions
Copyright: Allan Webber, December 2015, 2023

For the common benefit of humans [my writing] is about the divine essence   by which the astronomic revolutions have given me cognizance

                                      .....Nostradamus 1555 preface to Cesar PCE1

As I unfold the connections between Nostradamus' prefaces and his prophecies it becomes increasingly apparent that the prominent terms in the prefaces have specialized meanings for him.

The meaning of each is clarified by their connections to his verses. The number of focal terms in a quote  are very few and yet in their small collections there is usually at least one considered by the ages as highly enigmatic.

It is my aim to show how these verses selected by their uniqueness and relevance contain guidance as to the path that readers should follow. Verse C2 Q13  illustrates that style of connection in relation to the quote from Nostradamus' Preface to Cesar shown alongside and above.

Although this verse is usually dismissed as mystical nonsense that conclusion is based on lack of supportive experiences in the reader. And of course that is common because of our opinion as to our evolutionary superiority. However from Nostradamus's claimed experiences his wording has direct relevance to his source and to the origin of his abilities.

Read C2 Q13 in the presence of the above quotes and you can find understanding based on the perspective of what would be essential if there is to be any truth in Nostradamus' future seeing claims. If founded in reality then he had to have a source and means that fits into the real world. Notably his descriptions do offer an explanation based on modern knowledge of the universe.

The above quote tells us Nostradamus had a different view on the nature of time. Yet although still not recognised modern understanding suggest it is plausible. Consider the case for their being a source in the future that is capable of communicating with a person in the past; since evolution adds to the scope of ling things a future being may develop the means to influence the mind of individuals from the past.

Evolution has produced us and all other living things over a vast amount of time but the future goes on over a period of time many times longer than has already passed. The take away message from that is there will of course be beings in the future that will make our sophisticated abilities to appreciate the universe seem very primitive.

Hence we can anticipate there will be beings with capacities beyond that of humans and we would assess any contact with them as an exposure to the gods, immortals, deities or divines. You will find this recognition throughout Nostradamus' prefaces and prophecies.

Any exchange with such beings must inevitably have the humility expressed by Nostradamus in the quote; It is they that are outside the rules of time as we know it, not us. And there is no means, as he states in the quotes, by which we can be them. Yet in any exposure to such beings the mortal person would be aware that they deal not with a human of flesh and blood but a mind or essence that isn't locked to the instants of time that dictate human lives. Again this is the tone throughout Nostradamus'  works.

In such circumstances the prophet of our time would need to dissociate the limitations of the flesh and see the powers as part of the human mind's array of skills. And in respect to this the power of words is the most beneficial of human skills. That too is in Nostradamus' descriptions. In the quote above he makes it clear the origin is derived via 'the long expansion of natural knowledge'. So the term origin can be seen as processes inbuilt into the universe that lead to the conceptual powers of the human mind.

And the concept that we arrive at by this means ties to beings with a different engagement with time which in turn implies our interaction lies not in our substance but in our spirit, thoughts, emotions and expressions. The engagment is then in what we see as the instants while the immortals engage with it as a perpetuation. And it is this nature that makes astronomy the perfect agent for referencing  time and space for both parties.

It should be noted that this process of distinction comes from the connections between the quotes and verses and as the series proceeds that process will define more path ways along similar but uniquely different lines.

Anagram sequences in French Text

1. <a mans pulse enterS franciS proceSs> <franciS-i enterS plumes><if erraticneSS><earnestneSS><eaStern unreSts>
2. <Jouite medal terminations><monetarism ruled><immortal Jove annuities> <menstration><insinuate immortal Jet><innermost medal> <it rued Jovite ornamentalism>
3. <periLs infuriated male><feel it unified alarm><fear in flame><ecLipse female><spirited><unifier><unratified periLs malefice>
4. <yoV be Seen relevant on internet> <yoV aln t veber> <entire noteS been oVerneatly><Seen on internet>

Extract from my website article on Francis' part inNostradamus' sect.

My analyses of this verse begins by noting the wording in a letter by Francis' sister, Marguerite, to Anne de Montmorency. written nearly thirty years before Nostradamus penned this verse'

As for my news, the body is but too well ; but the spirit, I cannot deny it, remembers that which is left behind....Marguerite of Navarre in letter dated 20th November 1525.

The wording by Marguerite parallels that of Nostradamus and reinforces the likelihood of it being a symbolic code representing a group of like minded people. Now Anne de Montmorency was a male friend of both Marguerite and Francis and he would become the Baron of Les Bauxin 1528 which provides a connection to Nostradamus. Les Baux is one of several places able to be linked to Nostradamus through its nearness to a town in which he had lived and each of which held a passionate belief in the bloodline of Christ in France. Les Baux lies within a few hours walking distance from St Remy where Nostradamus was born.

The motto of Les Baux is Au hasard, Balthazar (perchance Balthasar) and this simple saying underscores the esoteric and heretical Christ-based beliefs that have dominated this citadel. From the foundation of the settlement the Lords of Baux claimed direct lineage from Balthasar, who they asserted was one of the attendants at Christ's birth.

This provides the historic link to the nativity presented in the second line of C.2 Q.13 and its reference of the 'day of the death' since Anne de Montmorency was appointed baron to this place when Les Baux was near to its demise. Although Nostradamus no longer lived in St Remy when Montmerency ruled Les Baux I believe his connections with events in Les Baux would have been strong. Relevantly both Queen Marguerite of Navarre and de Montmorency were considered heretics whose open support of the Protestant cause depended on Francis' good will. In a later reign Les Baux was destroyed because it sheltered Protestants and those who plotted against the Roman Catholic King. 

The first line of this verse holds anagrams that say process a name  as plumes enters Francis (ecorpsS a nsame,  sa meplus nestre e nSacrif) and the implications of these words fit to my theme. These anagrams imply the substitution of names and they help make sense of this verse as well as the words of Marguerite; Francis as the king is the soul mentioned in the verse while Marguerite as the female carrier of the bloodline is the body in both instances. It is by these nom-de-plumes their names are concealed and this continues for Montmorency is the spirit or the guide to the King and Nostradamus is he who sees eternity via the divine word. This rendering then changes Marguerites' words to Montmorency by revealing to him a far more earthy message:

 As for my news, I, the child bearer, am safe but I know you as the king's guide are concerned my mission hasn't succeeded. 

And Nostradamus' verse becomes:

 The child-bearer so long without the kingly child will no longer need to worry about that goal. On the death of the King , our new King, who bears the same title, will be born. It will be through the king's guide Montmorency(soul) that I, the seer Nostradamus (revealer of the divine spirit) bring to you assurance our goal will be achieved.  

In doing this Nostradamus is bestowing a meaning relevant to his own time and the era in which he lived but it forecast events that wouln't take place for decades after his death.

The peculiar phrase Day of the death put into nativity can then be seen as also relating to the oddity that on the death of King Henry III of France in 1589, King Henry III of Navarre became King Henry IV of France so when Henry III (of France) died,  HenryIII (of Navarre) was reborn as Henry IV (of France). It is the marriage of Marguerite to Henri d'Albret of Navarre that achieved this goal through her marriage in 1527 and it seems that Nostradamus may have played a part in the sect's belief that the line of Jesus would be enhanced by this union.

This connection is quite feasible for all these persons were united by physical proximity, heresy, heritage, intellectual interests and timing.

 But the visible text can also be given a context based in the eternal present since it may also allude to Nostradamus' use of the Sephirot to encode his work. The body without soul no longer to be sacrificed:
Day of death put for birthday:
The divine spirit will make the soul happy,
Seeing the word in its eternity.

This can be interpreted as saying:

 'The text without its code no longer can be ignored for it shows how the end dates become the new beginning. That which is hidden will make people happy for it is the secret of time itself'.

There are clues to what the content of this verse reveals hidden in its anagrams but its secret is well protected and relies on a confident resolution of lettering for which simple anagrams do not always apply.

My rules for discovering Nostradamus' hidden code are unrelenting as to using whole anagrams for reliability but they are not the final determinant of what he wrote. They are a means by which I can know that what I find is not a fantasy. Words used in any person's writings are often simple, not complex, and most are common, not rare.

In this verse the reader will see words of mainly very rare occurrence that relate to the theme I suggest underpins its meaning and these include 'immortals', 'monetarism', 'procesS', 'relevant', 'internet','infuriated','female' and 'annuities'.

This unusual mix of words complies closely to my rules and they occur alongside others that though seemingly meaningful have no means of better validation. And through the totality we glimpse themes of monetary turmoil, ancient gender inheritance conflicts and secrets of Nostradamus' code.

So although these parts have to be rated as low level contributions until other verses reinforce them their existence together offers an inescapable framework for this verse. I repeat the anagram section below for the purpose of easier reference.

• Le corps Sans ame plus n'eStre en Sacrifice
  Jour de la mort mis en natiuite.
  L'esprit diuin fera l'ame felice
  Voyant le verbe en Son eternite.

1. <a mans pulse enterS franciS proceSs> <franciS-i enterS plumes><if erraticneSS><earnestneSS><eaStern unreSts><Sunset sample Spans crop>
2. <Jouite medal terminations><monetarism ruled><immortal Joue annuities> <menstration><insinuate immortal Jet><innermost medal> <it rude Jouite ornamentalism>
3. <periLs infuriated male><feel it unified alarm><fear in flame><ecLipse fermale><spirited><unifier><periLs unratified malefice>
4. <yoV be Seen relevant on internet> <yoV aln-t veber> <entire noteS been oVerneatly><Seen on internet>

Table listing anagram occurrences (1-23) in Nostradamus' Prophecies

1: ornamentalism, overneatly, infuriated / unratified, earnestness, Francis I, spirited, relevant, unified, Jouite,
2: terminations, menstration, immortal, retention, Francis, enrobes, Cecile,
3: monetarism, erraticness, annuities / insinuate, memorist / metorism, Pericles, unifier, plumes,
4: immortals / mortalism, retentions, internet, trueness, unrests, female,
5: innermost, process, eclipse, Levant, 
6: malefice, increase, aflame, unless, lever,
7: striped, minster, breve, 
8: innate, sunset, jet,
9: Levent, plume,
10: sample, vote / veto,
11: earliest, direst, steeds,
12: arsenic, trim, verb,
13: latest,
14: petrils / resplit / triples, invert, morale, spans, dirt,
15: entones, strip,
16: Joue, yov, fame,
17: been,
18: Timor, insane, moral, flame,
19: aflare / Rafael, finer / infer,
20: inmates, pelmets / Stempel / temples, habit, uuoes,
21: chaste / cheats, / scathe, chats, hiba, souu,
22: mortal,
23: crops.

Key Ideas:

ornamentalism, earnestness, infuriated, Francis I, unified, spirited, immortal, overneatly, unratified, relevant, terminations, monetarism, annuities, erraticness, innermost, process, eclipse, female, menstration, lever.